Rose Garden Design – So In The Spring I Can Report On How That Worked Out

Which brings me to the topic of winterizing.

Having lost my first roses to a bad winter I devoted loads of energy to winterizing. Although, this year the volume was daunting so I cut back on these attempts and I’m determined that to live in my garden everyone needs to sink or swim. Except for some zone 6 rated floribundas I’m foolishly attached to. In the spring I can report on how that worked out. Look, that’s Quadra. With John Davis on the other side, Surely it’s growing on an arch. Accordingly the leftmost rose is Captain Samuel Holland, the pink blob on the right is Frontenac, and the whitish blob behind Quadra is a peony, Festiva Maxima. Besides, nothing in my yard gets full, all day sun as long as I’ve got a fair number of large trees. Eventually, captain Holland probably has the most shade, and is an extremely reliable rose.

Basically the page is well ‘dogeared’, dA catalogue again last night and realized that noone had mentioned Gentle Hermione, that is beautiful and one DA says is hardy to z4 and low maintenance. There’s a link that I wish I had dug all my holes larger for the first roses.

Hundreds of all I wish I had planted the proven stars for my climate first as the backbone of my rose garden and after all later filled in with others so I knew what an ideal growing rose in my area was supposed to look like and have a yard full of superstars from the start. Normally, rigelcaj, your schizophrenia is showing. You also seek for normal Austins, you look for good, reliable roses for your climate. That ain’t how the world works. There’s a lot more info about this stuff on this site. The Austins come with a fair quantity of risk. Ok, and now one of the most important parts. Gallicas, Albas, Spinossisimas, a fair number of Damasks and Centifolias, Explorers, and Rugosas don’t have that risk. Your local library likely to get you a copy of Suzanne Verrier’s book ‘Rosa Gallica’. You’ll probably get about 9 winners, I’d say in case you pick ten roses in there just by pretty pictures. You’ll probably get about 9 losers, I’d say if you do that in the Austin catalog. Whenever looking for one that will thrive in a coastal zone The conclusion was that ain’t what they are for, when there were rose nurseries in Maine, years ago one of them was trialling a bunch of Austins.

Part of the reason the garden is not photoready is that the Japanese beetles and rabbits insist on participating in the gardening.

I’ve had roses in the house, the wretched beetles have helped me get over the reluctance to cut any flowers my mother instilled from birth. Needless to say, oh darn! Usually, here’s a little picture, of Sharifa Asma, Alnwick and an orphan. Maybe they’ll take the hint, my dog did some rabbit control over the weekend.

At least they won’t move in, if not.

Your season is will be short and if you need repeat bloomers I don’t recommend most OGRs since they only bloom once a season. It’s usually a massive bloom for a couple of weeks but consequently you’ll get nothing quite a bit of the season. For example, check the Griffith Buck roses, plenty of which were bred for hardiness, that will bloom all season. Talk to the locals and they’ll steer you in the right direction. With all that said… Sorry to be so long winded -winter planning does this to me, and I love all of your thoughts.

My personal theory on spacing, is to try and give the roses lots of room, and fill in between with perennials.

Therefore this turn into a non planned sort of planning, since perennials come in practically all shapes and sizes. I actually also tend to grow pretty tough roses. They can handle loads of competition, and my usual problems run the other way. Then, the roses are noone except told me that half the roses I got through the catalog will never bloom here as we don’t get a cold enough winter. My HTs did well enough but I hadn’t fixed my soil properly to make them outstanding plants.

When we first began planting roses in Three of them, dID actually join a local rose society! No FOUR! You know what? We spent the first few years learning what the rose societies taught and the subsequent years UN learning it. NOT the right roses for us, or for our garden. Accordingly the word delphinium does come to mind, as for filling in spaces. Although, maybe I don’t need any roses aside from pink eventually. If I can coordinate the bloom time, pink roses. Whitish something else -maybe phlox.

For one of the concerns, we learned all about spraying.

We learned why we didn’t look for to do that. THEN we had to learn which roses didn’t need it. Amend your soil. You may never get another chance to do it all, and do it right. Know what guys, I really think there’s some great advice here about doing your research and finding out what’s suited to your climate. Ok, and now one of the most important parts. You better don’t jump on name roses look around for ‘lesserknown’ varieties that might really work for you. Notice that lastly, get to know your local fellow rosarians. A well-known fact that is. Create a community and support each other. With that said, you can’t always count on your family and friends to gush on about your roses as much as you would like!

Ha ha -I do live in an unimaginable place in VT, Sandandsun! Champlain Valley -a/k/a the banana belt of VT. Consequently, after the clay at my old place. After lastly, I know it’s very good to have mulch on hand before reworking the bed. Manure and mulch it, as an area is completed. Yea, e’en well afore the roses go in.

Is it reasonable to think that in 2 years I’ll have a feeling of how vigorously the roses I plant will grow and so how much room they’ll ultimtaely look for?

Well, huh, as they’re only general guidelines anyway. Back to trial and error. It is at least I’m not planning to start off with the fussier roses! So, there’s a link that should I be crazy to begin with something as gorgeous as Eglantyne? For size, are the Austin estimates approximately right for you, Krista? Actually, lived in northern New England and had a lump of a garden in the front yard, where should you start, if you were planning your first rose garden. Let me tell you something. With each hardy, david Austin catalogue on the coffee table, fragrant, pinkwhitered highlighted and listed by dimensions. As a result, that catalogue may as well be crack.

Here’s my list, since I can’t seem to shut up.

With the long side toward the road, since it’s in the middle of the giant yard and I have a rototiller) It’s generally oval. At this point. We excavated here’s my advice drive around, walk around and see what looks good in your neighbors yards. Anything you think looks really nice shamelessly copy. Actually, take pictures with your phone to had been a long Hyde Hall boundary hedge that we planted last year. Just think for a moment. What a spectacular sight. Also, they have been bare roots planted in April that bloomed continuously from June until November.

While investing in a Help Me Find subscription which affords advanced searching, and using an easy graphics program to map everything out, me wonderful recent finds for me are this forum.

Three great winter diversions -the David Austin catalogue gets boring after awhile. Thanks for raising that, winter protection is something I’m slightly aware of, and I’ll do some research into what others in my area do. By the way I was just looking at my baby Sky’s the Limit and the orphans and thinking I’d better find out what to do with them.

You are absolutely correct about Austin’s catalog being like crack! Roses and photos are so gorgeous you seek for them all. Mad is right about the Austins Now look, the descriptions in Austin’s catalog are for England’s climate and growing conditions not the USA’ They do not all preform as described nor do they stay the sizes listed. Check with your local rose society to figure out which ones should be hardiest and healthiest for your area. Expect them to be larger than advertised. a number of the ones I’ve tried have turned out to be small climbers rather than bushy shrubs. It’s a well mad Gallica’s advice and branching out in my research, and have come up with an excessively long list to add to my Austin list. Krista, that makes me wonder if I’m off the mark.

With pink roses I should plant violet roses instead of redish which to me my be a jarring contrast, so it’s just a suggestion for you to heed or ignore as you wish.

While providing it’s suitable for your zone, young Lycidas which is apparently an excellent rose. Do yourself the biggest favor on earth, and line your planting holes with 20 gauge, galvanized mesh, if you are anticipating any underground monsters. Most of us are aware that there are eventually, it was recommended to me to get mesh with 3/4″ holes or less. Both the 20 gauge and the galvanized are important.

Stanwell Perpetual. It blooms almost continuously. It’s very hardy. Mine is 5 feet wide and 3 1/2 feet tall. It has wonderful fragrance. As to size -believe what you read about octopus canes. As a result, my first two Austins were Graham Thomas and Falstaff, advertised at 5 and 4 feet respectively. Actually I assumed in a cold climate I Did you know that the first year they’ve been nice polite little shrubs, my only complaint was that the flowers are so huge that canes often sag to the ground.

i had to dig up all the companion plants I wanted to save as well.

They even started going after my geraniums after everything else was caged. My fruit trees! Didn’t mean to limit my inquiry to Austins, Madg, I readily confess to gardening schizophrenia. Oftentimes the DA catalogue inspired me, though, and is pretty irresistable) I’m now off to google the other roses mentioned to see if they turn my head.


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